Monday, February 14, 2011

Silent Films

Discussion Posting One:

Your assignment is for those of you that have been selected to make a post about the reading and  videos below. After doing this you will answer the questions on my blog by going to the comment section and making a comment. You will see this post below this entry. Please title your post your teams name and your full name and the tile of this posting. See example  Gold Team Dennis Keegan Silent Films.
This portion of the project is worth 50 points.

You must also comment on two class mates posting from another group. These people should be in a different group and different each week. Your comments must be either why you agree with the answer they put or why you disagree. You must also be RESPECTFUL! Any disrespectful comments will cost you all your points for this assignment. post your answers to your teams blog. 


Look at the first link  Reading and read the information about Silent films. I want you to read the following paragraphs: first paragraph, elements, intertitles and watch video, live music and sound, and finally acting techniques.

We will look at two video clips from this time period "Gold Rush" which grossed 4,250,000 back in 1925. To put this in perspective movie tickets cost .25 cents! A bottle of coke was .25 cents! The average house cost 3,000 and 5,000 dollars.
 Film one



Film two


For fun, here is picture of me and Coley for Halloween. Coley wanted to go as "the kid" a character in the movie "the kid" by charlie Chaplin. This film was one where you had a roller coaster of emotion. If you are interested and time permits look it up on you tube. The little boy is the original fester from Adams Family!




Questions:


1 From the video "Gold Rush" what do you think is going on? What tells you this? Do the actors give you body language or facial expression for what is happening to them?

2. The film "Gold Rush" is a comedy what gives it this type of category? Please explain.

3. The Films both have a narrator instead of speaking. As you read about intertitles what else have silent films used in the past to discuss what is happening in the scenes?

4.How does music and sound effect film?  Not only here in the case of the silent films, but think of the films that you watch currently. Sound effects and music can make you up, and feel emotion whether it be sad or happy. Explain what importance these sounds have for films? Please explain in detail 30 to 45 words.

5. The films in the silent era were all black and white how important was it to have good use of body language and facial expression? In your next project you will write and produce a silent film that is 2:30 to 3 minutes long. How important will your use of body language and facial language be? What camera angle techniques will you use to display this?

49 comments:

  1. Megan McCloskey- silent films
    1) In the first video it looks like they are eating a shoe and the man with the beard looks disgusted while the other one doesn't really care, he's just hungry.In the second video it looks like the man with the beard is seeing the other one as a chicken because he's hungry. I can tell because of there facial expressions and there body language.
    2)Its comedy because they do funny things and its kind of like the three stooges where they dont have to talk a lot to be funny its there facial expressions and its there actions.
    3)facial expressions and actions.
    4)It effects how you feel about the scene, like when in the 2nd video the man with the beard is running after the other guy with the ax it goes kinda high pitched and makes the scene feel intense. In the past they've used objects, actions and facial expressions.Its important for films to have sound because it makes you feel something like in a scary movie, when something pops out it usually makes a big scary sound. or if something funny happens they clap/laugh.
    5)It was important to use objects and actions so you know whats going on and facial expressions if they think something funny,scary,odd ect. In the project it will be pretty important to use body language so the people know whats going on and facial expressions to show if we like something or dont. you will have to use medium shot, close up, long shot, extreme closeup, lead room ect.

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  2. Savannah- silent films,
    1) In the first video it look like there are eating shoe for there dinner .The man was-eating it they didn't care if they where eating shoe.In the second one the man was imagining that his friend was a chicken be he was problem was hungry.well on the body language and expressions i couldn't tell. 2)Its comedy because they do funny things in the video and it was like they funny people. 3)facial expressions and actions. 4)how you feel about the video or scene.When the films has sound and affects it make it have feel like or in the films. 5)It would be import too have the body language and expression because u would know if it was like a funny thing that they said in the films.You will need to use long shot,close up,medium,extreme closeup,and ect.

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  3. Brandon Chan green team silent films
    1. The first film was about this guy cooking a shoe for this guy the guy who is gonna eat it doesnt really care hes hungry while the guy who's cooking it is that he thinks its nasty i can tell because the look of their faces
    2.Its comedy because the actors do funny or weird things
    3.The actors actions and the look of their faces
    4.How music and sound effects film is that it makes it seems more intense or it makes it seem sad or happy. Music or sound makes it seem more real.
    5. It was very important to use good body language and good facial expressions because you couldn't talk and tell whats going on. Good facial expression and good body language will be important we will maybe use long shot, medium, or close up

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  4. Green Team Levi Stevens Silent films part1
    1)During the first clip 2 men are eating a shoe because the are hungry. You can tell this because the guy with the beard looks like he'd rather have something also. Yes, the actors give you body language or facial expression.
    2)This film is a comedy because they do things that normal living people wouldn't do.
    3)IN the past people have used onscreen intertitles, present key dialogue, and comment on action for the cinema audience.
    4)The music and sound effects can give emotion which can't all be shown in film alone. I can't think of any films I see today that are silent films or use the tecnicke they use.

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  5. Megan (gray team)
    Your observation is very true. The body language and facial expressions are what make the silent films and current films work. Even in photos you can tell through expressions what people maybe feeling. On question five the camera angles that you would use are extreme close up, close up, medium and long. I would not use lead room it would be too difficult to get the feeling of the body language or facial image. Good work!!! You are almost done you just need to post to a video

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  6. Brandon (Green team)
    You make a very good point. Music and sound make the film seem real. Real! So would you agree that music brings emotion into it? Body language is very important it does have an impact on how the film is viewed. Good job Brandon I agree on your camera shots, the long shot would depend on the circumstance.

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  7. Christian Rodino purple team silent films
    1: The first video the characters are hungry so they decide to eat one of the characters shoes for food. The character with the beard seems satisfied with the meal, as the other person seems disgusted and rather not eat a shoe. The characters facial expressions show disgust and or rrespect for the meal. In the second video the bigger of the two characters thinks the ther person looks like a chickenbecuase he is hungry. You can tell by the way he acks.
    2: The Gold Rush can be described as a comedy for many reasons. One of the reasons are that the characters do funny things such as eat shoes or think one and other are chickens. This is how Gold Rush is a comedy.
    3: These videos also use facial expressions and actions.
    4: Sound effects videos greatly. In different scenes of movies the music changes. Music can make the watcher feel the emotion of the video. Sound and music can make the viewer feel sad, mad, happy etc... Music and sound have a huge effect on videos especially silent films.
    5: Facial expressions and actions are very important in silent films. They describe how the actors feelin the video with out color and them speaking. We will need to use many different types of shots for are video to show the expressions of the actors. Some of the shots will be close up, extreme close up, medium shot etc... In our video that we will make it will be very important to use faial expressions and different body actions to make the viewer feel how the actors feel.

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  8. zack chandler

    1 they are hungry and ran out of food so they cooked Chaplin's shoe so he is cooking it gives it two more minutes and looks happy but Jim said to hurry up so Chaplin took shoe put on plate then put it on table sat down and looked confused. then he took shoe top off and gave bottom to Jim. Jim looks at it oddly then swaps his with Chaplin's and so he has top both guys look at shoe awkwardly then Chaplin tries his loos happy and starts chowing down looking pleased about his food.
    2 it is a comedy because he and his friend are eating his shoe and Chaplin likes eating it
    3 i have see a silent film where they held up posters saying what happens.
    4 sound and music help with the experience of a movie by showing the emotion even more by setting the general mood or building suspense
    right before something scary happens like having scary music then silence then loud screeching monster or alien and that usually scares people alot so times little kids cant watch the movie plus if there is a scene where there are no characters then you kind of need sound or if there if say a space battle on star wars. star wars has to much action and battle scenes that they don't have time to show all that emotion.
    5 extremely important because there was no color so expression set the mood and terrible use of expression would ruin the movie.it will mean are grade if we fail in expression and silent films should be filmed by long shot or medium some times even close up

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  9. Christian purple team
    Your right about music having a big effect on video it makes it seem more real
    -Brandon-

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  10. Green Team Levi Stevens Silent films Part 2
    5) With body motion you can express your feelings with out talking.In our next project that will be 2:30 to 3 minutes long we cant use sound so it will be very important that we use expressions. We could also use different camera angles to show what that character is looking at.

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  11. 1)This first video they show you what they are doing in the film. They are eating a boot or should i say cooking one then they eat it. The two guys make it seem likes its some kind of meat. They use a knife to cut it up. Then he out water as it is like flavor. When they eat it they don't mind that its a boot.
    2)This film is a comedy because they do things someone wouldn't usually do.
    3)In this silent video instead of them talking they show by using body language or facial expressions.
    4)Sound is something very important to any film or movie of some sort. It shows the emotion within the characters and the whole movie or clip.Without music in my opinion the clip would be boring.
    5)Body language is important so we can show the viewers what its about and what are goal is about.

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  12. Blue team Isaiah Rivera Silent Film
    1. What I think is going on is that both of them are really hungry but they couldnt find any food. What tells me this is that one of them is cooking a shoe to eat. In the film they are both showing facial expression for what is happening to them.
    2. It's comedy because they show one of them as a chicken cause the other one is so hungry going crazy. So then he starts to chase him and all. Plus they try to eat a shoe too!!
    3. In the past silent films used to act everything out to show whats happening instead of talking it out.
    4. Sounds and music have great effect on films so that we can know whats about to happen. Like say your watching a scary movie and there no sound or music to go with it so then it'll be so boring!! But with music it'll be interesting to make you want to jump.
    5. It's important because then people can get the point of what there or you are doing in front of the camara. If you have no facial expression people be like does he have no feeling ahah so yea.

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  13. Isaiah,
    Awesome job about going home and posting this this, you ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Yes the facial expressions and the body language is key to the silent films. You right in scary movies the thrill would be lost with out the music.

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  14. Christan you are right about silent films needing body language and needing facial expressions.
    -Brandon B.-

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  15. Isiah: I also agree that facial expressions and Body language is plays a huge roll in silent films. Also the music in scary movies has a great effect on the thrill.

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  16. Megan: I also agree that facial expressions are huge in silent films. I also think that without them you would not be able to know what is going on as well.

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  17. Both men are really hungry. In the first video one man is disgusted by eating the shoe so he doesn't eat at first. The other just eats his shoe and doesn't care.You can tell one man doesnt care because he shruggs his shoulder. The other man is disgusted you can tell by his facial expression. In the second video the chunkier man was really hungry so he was having a hallucination and he imagined him as a chicken. The other man wasn't as hungry but he ran away because the other guy wanted to eat him. They both showed body language and facial expression. This is a comedy because he wants to eat the other guy. In silent films narrators are used to tell whats happening in the story. Sound helps a lot because it sets the mood. most horror films wouldn't be scary without the music. For example jaws. without the scary music it wouldn't be so suspenseful. Same with most horror films. That is why the music is very important. It's also important in happier movies because it makes the characters seem happier. Facial expression and body language is very important because they cannot speak. It helps them show what they are trying to say. We will use medium shots maybe. -Andres-

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  18. Isiah i think your right that they are both hungry -Andres-

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  19. Lily
    1)In the first clip a funny guy with a mustache cooks his shoe to eat.The other man looks disgusted.Then in the second film this guy waas so hungry he had a mirage that another dude was a chicken.I see a lots of facial expression and body language.
    2)This is film is a comedy because they do hilarious/stupid things.
    3)They narrator describe the actions and expression they are doing.
    4)Music and sound effects really effect the movie and us, like in the titanic they have sad music and when its happy or fun it has a fast beat.It makes us feel the same way.
    5)Its important to use body language and show expressions so the people watch will probably understand it more.It gets their attention.If you don't show anything people wouldn't be interested.

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  21. Purple Team Miguel Vazquez Silent Films
    1) The first video the guy are hungry so they decide to eat a shoe for food. The guy with the beard like the meal. But the other guy looked like he wanted the shoes to eat but then he didn't. In the second video the guy in the beard thinks the the other guy looks like a chicken becuase he is hungry.
    2) The Gold Rush can be described as a comedy. One of the reasons are that the characters do funny things like eat shoes or think the other is a chickens. These reasons show how gold rush is a comedy.
    3) These videos also use face expressions and actions.
    4) Sound effects makes videos greater. In different scenes of movies the music changes. Music can make the person can tell the emotion of the video. Music and sound have a huge effect on videos like silent films.
    5)Face expressions and actions are very important in silent films. They describe how the actors feel in the video with out color or them speaking. We will need to use different types of shots for are video to show the expressions of the actors. Some of the shots will be close up, extreme close up, medium shot. In our video that we will make it will be very important to use face expressions and different body actions to show the viewer feel how the actors feel.

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  22. Adam Getliff

    1) in this film there are two people winch are poor. And there eating a shoe for dinner. the man at the table look like it was a joke eating the shoe. In the second film the man that is at the table start to dream that the man cooking is a chicken. and start to try to kill him and eat him. there a ton of facial expression and body language.
    2)this film is a comedy because both the people are doing dumb stuff because there want food.
    3)the narrator tells us a lot with his voice of what going on also facial expression and body language put a big key in the film.
    4)music is a big key of this movie. with no music it would be harder to understand what is going on.in normal films music can change the mood of what is going on. like scary movies the music makes it seem scary.Music and sound have a huge effect on videos like silent films, without it you would be lost.
    5)Face expressions and actions are very important in silent films. it tells how the actor feels and what is going on. different shots are need for this movie like close up, extreme close up, medium shot.body language or facial expression are a huge part of the make of silent films.

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  23. Isaiah I agree that sounds and music have great affects on a film- Megan

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  24. Brandon, I agree that facial expressions and body language is important so you know whats going on. -Megan

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  25. Andres your right they really dont care that there eating a shoe that he got from his own foot and then cook it. -Brandon B.-

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  26. Adam i think your right about the facial expressions and the body language. -Levi

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  27. Silent Films ; By Red Team.
    - 1. In the first video it looked like the man with the mustache and the guy sitting down were cooking (steaming?) and then eating a shoe.

    2. Its a comedy because no one actually eats shoes, or cooks shoes, and its suppose to be hilarious.

    3. They could be used to cheer people up, and they can be used to see what the worlds like without sound, and what people may think your doing in the film could be entirely different then what you could really be doing.
    4. Music in silent films and films we see till this day can make a difference because it makes the movie seem more epic, and compliments the film. It also makes the movie seem different from other movies and it makes the movies more dramatic.

    5. Facial and body movements could actually make a difference in the movies because whatever you do you have to remember you have no sound and that any thing you do could make the person think the movies off track.

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  28. Miguel, i agree they you need to use actions to give expressions-levi-

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  30. Adam,I think your your right about the facial expressions. With out them you could not tell what was going on.-Miguel V.-

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  32. Brooke
    1)In the first video he cooked a shoe so he could eat it. The other guy next to him is thinking that the guy eating the shoe is crazy. In the second video the guy dreams that the guy cooking the shoe turns into a chicken.
    2)This Is a comedy because they are both doing weird stuff that is a little funny.
    3)The narrator describes the actions that they do.
    4)Sound and music help you know what is going to happen next in the film. With no sound or music it will be harder to understand what is going on.
    5)Facial expressions are needed because they help you understand what is going on. You need the different shots so you don't just see one thing because that would be boring.

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  33. Rojos team,
    You are right facial and body movements could actually make a difference in the video it helps understand it more.
    Brooke

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  34. Collin Brewer, Blue Team:
    1)They are poor because they are eating a boot.
    2)they are doing something that most people would think is stupid.
    3)Silent films have sound effects to show what is happening in the scenes.
    4)Music and sound effects give mood and emotion to silent films. Nothing else can show mood and emotion because there is no talking in silent films.
    5)Body language and facial expression can show mood and emotion in a silent film.

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  35. Christian,
    You are right music can make the person who is watching feel the emotion of the video.
    Brooke

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  36. Collin brewer,
    you are right about Body language and facial expression are a big part of the movie and how it shows mood in the actors.
    Adam Getliff

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  37. Miguel purple team
    Music can change the movie and people can read their emotions
    Lily

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  38. 1)During the first clip two men are eating a shoe because the are hungry. You can tell this because the guy with the beard looks like he'd rather have something else. Yes, the actors give you body language or facial expression, because their face looks crunched when the eat the shoe because its hard to swallow.
    2)This film is a comedy because they do things that normal living people wouldn't do, the fat man gets so hungry he illusions.
    3)IN the past people have used onscreen inter titles, present key dialogue, and comment on action for the cinema audience.
    4)The music and sound effects can give emotion which can't all be shown in film alone. I can't think of any films I see today that are silent films.

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  39. Levi
    the jim guy looks really hungry,and does not want to the shoe.You can tell from reading his expressions
    Lily

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  40. Christian, you are very correct about the camera shots they would have to use to get emotions and expression.

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  41. Yes music and sound make this film more real.

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  42. I agree Adam there is a ton of facial expression.

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  43. I agree Brooke facial expressions help show what is going on.

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  44. There is a lot of facial expression to make the characters look like their mad or happy or sad or crazy.

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  45. Isaiah I agree that sounds and music have great affects in the silent film. Adam getliff

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  46. I agree with Brooke facial expression help a lot in videos.
    From: Isaiah

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  47. I agree with Adam body language put a big key in the film.
    From: Isaiah

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  48. Brandon you are right because It was important to make good facial and body movements or else people might not know whats going on and might get bored with the silent film.
    -alyssa

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  49. Lily you are right, the guy with the mustache was funny looking and the man looked like he was going to puke, but i thought he was going to eat it anyway.

    - alyssa

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